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Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2391

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I thought I'd start a thread for the people who use the Apex Aquacontroller. I wanted to share in here programming, how to's, help, and cool stuff you can do with it.

I'll kick it off with cool stuff I do with mine

- Auto top off
- Auto water change
- Email/text message alerts set to my personal preferences
- Remote access via my iPhone and the internet

As for me, I have my temp set to turn on at 77.7, and shut off at 78.0 I My lights are set to Reef time, but delayed an hour so I can see them a about when I wake up. My fuge light is set to turn on when my actinics are off. I also set my koralias, return pump,ATO, and skimmer to shut off when I do a water change.

If you'd like to see any programming for this, just lemme know. If you'd like to see an AWESOME guide on how to set them up, check out this PDF

Unofficial Apex Guide PDF

Hope you find this helpful!
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2443

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Nothing fancy for mine, but here's what I do:

EB8
3 stages of lighting for my display: Actinic, MidDay, and Daylight
+ a Fan
+ pH controller for my calcium reactor's solenoid
Each 3x60" ballast does about 3.9 amps, so that is the only equipment on that power box

DC8 (From my old ACJr setup)
Heaters and my 250w MH on my sump

I actually just recently redid this layout, so I may end up adding the powerheads to the controlled outlets as well. I think each HK8 is only 0.16A, so I have plenty of room there. I have two 20A circuits for my fish room, so the EB8 is on one and the DC8 on the other. I use an American DJ power strip w/ rocker switches for the other stuff now.

Temp is also controlled between 77.7 and 80. Calcium reactor is set to a trigger point of 6.60. I'm not using the reef time, just the 11-11, 12-10, and 1-9 times for lighting. MH on sump is reverse photo period from 11pm-11am.

I have email/sound alerts set up when:
temp < 75
temp > 80
ph < 7.75
ph > 8.25
reactor > 6.70
reactor < 6.50

Can't forget the Apex app for the my Droid. Easy to check status remotely, control an outlet, or pull up a graph. Great app for a few bucks

Have you guys updated to the latest 4.04 firmware and webpage updates? I just did the other day. Also, FWIW, Neptune has top notch customer service.
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2447

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I'd have to agree, their customer service is outstanding! I havent tried updating. From what I've seen in the Neptune forums on RC, there have been quite a few problems. Plus, I have a mac, and updating is never easy with those. Unless there is something awesome that comes with the update, I wont fix what ain't broken!
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2458

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I went ahead and made this a sticky, I think having a bunch of good info about the apex all in one location is a great idea!
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2511

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Lets see your code!
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2516

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Patmack wrote:
Lets see your code!
I'll show you mine if you show me yours :)
VarSpd1_I1   (base Var1)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

VarSpd2_I2   (base Var2)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

VarSpd3_I3   (base Var3)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

VarSpd4_I4   (base Var4)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

SndAlm_I6    (base Alarm)
  Set OFF
  If Temp > 80.0 Then ON
  If Temp < 76.0 Then ON
  If pH > 08.25 Then ON
  If pH < 07.75 Then ON
  If pH2 > 06.70 Then ON
  If pH2 < 06.50 Then ON

SndWrn_I7    (base Warn)
  Set OFF

EmailAlm_I5  (base email)
  Set OFF
  If Temp > 80.0 Then ON
  If Temp < 76.0 Then ON
  If pH > 08.25 Then ON
  If pH < 07.75 Then ON
  If pH2 > 06.70 Then ON
  If pH2 < 06.50 Then ON

Actinic_3_1  (3_1)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF
  If Time 11:00 to 23:00 Then ON

MidDay_3_2   (3_2)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF
  If Time 12:00 to 22:00 Then ON

Daylight_3_3 (3_3)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF
  If Time 16:00 to 18:00 Then ON

Fan_3_4      (3_4)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF
  If Time 11:00 to 23:15 Then ON

EB8_3_5      (3_5)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

EB8_3_6      (3_6)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

EB8_3_7      (3_7)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

Solenoid_3_8 (3_8)
  Fallback OFF
  If pH2 > 06.60 Then ON
  If pH2 < 06.60 Then OFF

Heater_A1    (Cntl:A1)
  Fallback OFF
  If Temp < 77.7 Then ON
  If Temp > 78.0 Then OFF

Halide_A2    (Cntl:A2)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF
  If Time 22:00 to 10:00 Then ON
  Min Time 005:00 Then OFF

DC8_A3       (Cntl:A3)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

DC8_A4       (Cntl:A4)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

DC8_A5       (Cntl:A5)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

DC8_A6       (Cntl:A6)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

DC8_A7       (Cntl:A7)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF

DC8_A8       (Cntl:A8)
  Fallback OFF
  Set OFF
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2519

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Email Alarm

Set OFF
If Temp > 82.0 Then ON
If Temp < 75.0 Then ON
If Power Apex Off 000 Then OFF


Actinic LED's


Fallback ON
Set OFF
If Sun 060/060 Then ON
If Temp > 84.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF


White LED's

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Sun 120/015 Then ON
If Temp > 84.0 Then OFF


Fuge Light

Fallback OFF
If Outlet Actinic = ON Then OFF
If Outlet Actinic = OFF Then ON




Heater


Fallback OFF
If Temp < 77.8 Then ON
If Temp > 78.0 Then OFF


Auto top-off


Fallback OFF
If Switch1 OPEN Then OFF
If Switch1 CLOSED Then ON
Min Time 015:00 Then OFF
If Outlet Water_Change = ON Then OFF
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
If FeedB 005 Then OFF
If FeedC 005 Then OFF
If FeedD 005 Then OFF
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2528

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I can get my code up later if needed, but here is what my Apex is controlling:

2x MP40's via WXM
Controlling Metal Halides
Controlling T5
Controlling Moonlight
Controlling Sump Light
Controlling Skimmer Pump
Controlling Chiller and Chiller Pump
Controlling Return Pump
Controlling Heater
Monitoring PH, Salinity Temp

In progress:
ATO-99% Complete
Calcium Reactor
Neptune Lunar lights
Water on the floor sensors
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2535

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Has anyone else done the DIY breakout box? If youre handy with soldering, give it a shot. Here is a good thread for it


DIY Breakout Box
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2562

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No, I havent tried it yet. I didnt think the $20 for a break out box was to bad, but it doesnt seem to mine is working so maybe a DIY is in order if I cant get this one to work.
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 7 months ago #2571

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the DIY ones are nice too since you get to use the stereo jacks rather than inserting bare wires into those clips.
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 6 months ago #4050

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Just set up my Apex to use the seasonal variations in sunrise/sunset times. My "regular" light schedule is from 4pm till 2am. I wanted to use this built in feature with my schedule in mind so here is the code to use it. Very simple:

For Actinics

Fallback ON
If Sun 000/000 Then ON
If Temp > 81.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

For MH

Fallback ON
If Sun 060/-060 Then ON
If Temp > 81.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

*This will run my MH 1 hour after sunrise until 1 hour before sunset, using the seasonal tables. I now need to get the lunar simulator to complete the cycle.

I then set the controller clock to correspond with my schedule. (ex. at 2pm real time, the controller is set to 7am) so the "sunrise" is around 2pm and works for my schedule.

Ex. Season Table
Date Sunrise/Set Moonrise/set Avg. Temp
Apr 01 07:06/19:21 06:10/18:10 01 76.0
Apr 02 07:06/19:21 06:59/18:59 01 76.0
Apr 03 07:05/19:21 07:48/19:48 01 76.0
Apr 04 07:05/19:21 08:36/20:36 00 76.0
Apr 05 07:04/19:21 09:24/21:24 01 76.0
Apr 06 07:03/19:21 10:13/22:13 01 76.0
Apr 07 07:03/19:21 11:02/23:02 02 76.1
Apr 08 07:02/19:21 11:51/23:51 02 76.1
Apr 09 07:01/19:22 12:40/00:40 02 76.1
Apr 10 07:01/19:22 13:28/01:28 04 76.1
Apr 11 07:00/19:22 14:17/02:17 05 76.1
Apr 12 07:00/19:22 15:06/03:06 06 76.1
Apr 13 06:59/19:22 15:55/03:55 07 76.2
Apr 14 06:58/19:22 16:44/04:44 09 76.2
Apr 15 06:58/19:22 17:32/05:32 10 76.2
Apr 16 06:57/19:23 18:21/06:21 11 76.2
Apr 17 06:56/19:23 19:10/07:10 12 76.2
Apr 18 06:56/19:23 19:59/07:59 14 76.2
Apr 19 06:55/19:23 20:48/08:48 12 76.3
Apr 20 06:54/19:23 21:36/09:36 11 76.3
Apr 21 06:54/19:23 22:25/10:25 10 76.3
Apr 22 06:53/19:23 23:14/11:14 09 76.3
Apr 23 06:53/19:23 00:03/12:03 07 76.3
Apr 24 06:52/19:24 00:52/12:52 06 76.3
Apr 25 06:51/19:24 01:40/13:40 05 76.4
Apr 26 06:51/19:24 02:29/14:29 04 76.4
Apr 27 06:50/19:24 03:18/15:18 02 76.4
Apr 28 06:49/19:24 04:07/16:07 02 76.4
Apr 29 06:49/19:24 04:56/16:56 02 76.4
Apr 30 06:48/19:24 05:44/17:44 01 76.4

It is amazing how much the lunar cycle changes over the month. We will see how this affects things from the standard 4-2 cycle I was using before.
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 6 months ago #4051

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I am interested to see if that has any positive effects. I would really like to set up some new LEDs that have the capability to dim at sunrise and sunset.


PMatthews wrote:
Just set up my Apex to use the seasonal variations in sunrise/sunset times. My "regular" light schedule is from 4pm till 2am. I wanted to use this built in feature with my schedule in mind so here is the code to use it. Very simple:

For Actinics

Fallback ON
If Sun 000/000 Then ON
If Temp > 81.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

For MH

Fallback ON
If Sun 060/-060 Then ON
If Temp > 81.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

*This will run my MH 1 hour after sunrise until 1 hour before sunset, using the seasonal tables. I now need to get the lunar simulator to complete the cycle.

I then set the controller clock to correspond with my schedule. (ex. at 2pm real time, the controller is set to 7am) so the "sunrise" is around 2pm and works for my schedule.

Ex. Season Table
Date Sunrise/Set Moonrise/set Avg. Temp
Apr 01 07:06/19:21 06:10/18:10 01 76.0
Apr 02 07:06/19:21 06:59/18:59 01 76.0
Apr 03 07:05/19:21 07:48/19:48 01 76.0
Apr 04 07:05/19:21 08:36/20:36 00 76.0
Apr 05 07:04/19:21 09:24/21:24 01 76.0
Apr 06 07:03/19:21 10:13/22:13 01 76.0
Apr 07 07:03/19:21 11:02/23:02 02 76.1
Apr 08 07:02/19:21 11:51/23:51 02 76.1
Apr 09 07:01/19:22 12:40/00:40 02 76.1
Apr 10 07:01/19:22 13:28/01:28 04 76.1
Apr 11 07:00/19:22 14:17/02:17 05 76.1
Apr 12 07:00/19:22 15:06/03:06 06 76.1
Apr 13 06:59/19:22 15:55/03:55 07 76.2
Apr 14 06:58/19:22 16:44/04:44 09 76.2
Apr 15 06:58/19:22 17:32/05:32 10 76.2
Apr 16 06:57/19:23 18:21/06:21 11 76.2
Apr 17 06:56/19:23 19:10/07:10 12 76.2
Apr 18 06:56/19:23 19:59/07:59 14 76.2
Apr 19 06:55/19:23 20:48/08:48 12 76.3
Apr 20 06:54/19:23 21:36/09:36 11 76.3
Apr 21 06:54/19:23 22:25/10:25 10 76.3
Apr 22 06:53/19:23 23:14/11:14 09 76.3
Apr 23 06:53/19:23 00:03/12:03 07 76.3
Apr 24 06:52/19:24 00:52/12:52 06 76.3
Apr 25 06:51/19:24 01:40/13:40 05 76.4
Apr 26 06:51/19:24 02:29/14:29 04 76.4
Apr 27 06:50/19:24 03:18/15:18 02 76.4
Apr 28 06:49/19:24 04:07/16:07 02 76.4
Apr 29 06:49/19:24 04:56/16:56 02 76.4
Apr 30 06:48/19:24 05:44/17:44 01 76.4

It is amazing how much the lunar cycle changes over the month. We will see how this affects things from the standard 4-2 cycle I was using before.
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 6 months ago #4053

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check out those meanwell drivers. I was just looking up LED's for a larger tank, and using those. With the meanwell, you can sire them into the variable speed ports on the apex, and have them dim on and off.
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Re: Apex Users! 7 years 6 months ago #4059

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alanmorehead wrote:

Have you guys updated to the latest 4.04 firmware and webpage updates? I just did the other day. Also, FWIW, Neptune has top notch customer service.

Does this update do anything cool? I have not bothered with it because I also think if it's not broke...
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